Comments on: Politics and the Internet in its teens: A manifesto http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/ dea nova machina Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:38:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: eripsa http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-14588 eripsa Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:23:25 +0000 http://eripsa.org/blog/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/#comment-14588 Like you, for instance? Like you, for instance?

]]> By: Lally http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-14587 Lally Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:22:47 +0000 http://eripsa.org/blog/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/#comment-14587 (6:22:07 PM) dr crawl: you suck (6:22:09 PM) dr crawl: the internet rules I think that you are embittered at the irrelevance of everything you love. (6:22:07 PM) dr crawl: you suck
(6:22:09 PM) dr crawl: the internet rules

I think that you are embittered at the irrelevance of everything you love.

]]> By: Lally http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-14586 Lally Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:20:50 +0000 http://eripsa.org/blog/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/#comment-14586 The internet sucks. The internet sucks.

]]> By: eripsa » Blog Archive » The internet and the vote http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-14448 eripsa » Blog Archive » The internet and the vote Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:39:49 +0000 http://eripsa.org/blog/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/#comment-14448 [...] Almost a year ago, at the beginning of the presidential campaign, I put forward an argument against the conventional wisdom that states “that the internet has not yet reached its peak of influence and probably won’t reach that peak before Nov. 2008, but maybe the during the cycle after that we will start to see the internet come into its own as the central medium for political discussion.” My argument was twofold: [...] [...] Almost a year ago, at the beginning of the presidential campaign, I put forward an argument against the conventional wisdom that states “that the internet has not yet reached its peak of influence and probably won’t reach that peak before Nov. 2008, but maybe the during the cycle after that we will start to see the internet come into its own as the central medium for political discussion.” My argument was twofold: [...]

]]> By: Safety Neal http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-6803 Safety Neal Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:45:31 +0000 http://eripsa.org/blog/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/#comment-6803 I totally agree with your point that the Internet is still going through its growing pains, I teach classes on Internet Legal Research every year and I often make a similar point when discussing HTML and various web protocols. I would actually say that Web 2.0 is in its infancy, from the <a href="http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/140/press_release.asp" rel="nofollow">Pew Report</a>: "Yet the proportion of adults who exploit the connectivity, the capacity for self expression, and the interactivity of modern information technology is a modest 8%." The digital divide is a huge issue and there is a wide range between digital haves and have-nots. While most Americans know the Internet exists, they're not expert users, so the online constituencies for Obama and Paul camps are not necessarily large in absolute numbers, but since so few Americans vote, they may still be influential. One other point, I think that television and the web will merge in the near future, especially is technologies like Microsoft's <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18936536/" rel="nofollow">Surface computing platform</a> gain favor. The news will become multimedia and will be webcast with embedded hyperlinks and access to other content. I totally agree with your point that the Internet is still going through its growing pains, I teach classes on Internet Legal Research every year and I often make a similar point when discussing HTML and various web protocols.

I would actually say that Web 2.0 is in its infancy, from the Pew Report: “Yet the proportion of adults who exploit the connectivity, the capacity for self expression, and the interactivity of modern information technology is a modest 8%.”

The digital divide is a huge issue and there is a wide range between digital haves and have-nots. While most Americans know the Internet exists, they’re not expert users, so the online constituencies for Obama and Paul camps are not necessarily large in absolute numbers, but since so few Americans vote, they may still be influential.

One other point, I think that television and the web will merge in the near future, especially is technologies like Microsoft’s Surface computing platform gain favor. The news will become multimedia and will be webcast with embedded hyperlinks and access to other content.

]]> By: Ian http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-6677 Ian Sat, 09 Jun 2007 05:25:04 +0000 http://eripsa.org/blog/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/#comment-6677 If this is a manifesto did you give it the obligatory scribble down into a notebook (similar to the cocktail napkin for famous scientific formulae)? You probably should since you don't want to lose it if your hard drive dies. If this is a manifesto did you give it the obligatory scribble down into a notebook (similar to the cocktail napkin for famous scientific formulae)? You probably should since you don’t want to lose it if your hard drive dies.

]]> By: eripsa http://eripsa.org/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/comment-page-1/#comment-6672 eripsa Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:14:44 +0000 http://eripsa.org/blog/2007/06/politics-and-the-internet-in-its-teens-a-manifesto/#comment-6672 The original draft of this manifesto was published in D&D, which you can find that <a href=http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2509737 rel="nofollow">here</a>. There was a lot of good discussion in that thread, and I tried to clarify my approach in this article quite a bit, including the <a href=http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2509737#post328930091 rel="nofollow">anthropomoriphization </a> and apparent <a href=http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2509737&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post328934893 rel="nofollow">attribution of agency</a> to the internet and my reasons for denying what I called the <a href=http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2509737&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post328982001 rel="nofollow">'conventional wisdom'</a>. I strongly recommend reading the thread. Also, this is my first real 'manifesto', so any further suggestions, comments, or criticisms would be greatly appreciated. The original draft of this manifesto was published in D&D, which you can find that here. There was a lot of good discussion in that thread, and I tried to clarify my approach in this article quite a bit, including the anthropomoriphization and apparent attribution of agency to the internet and my reasons for denying what I called the ‘conventional wisdom’. I strongly recommend reading the thread.

Also, this is my first real ‘manifesto’, so any further suggestions, comments, or criticisms would be greatly appreciated.

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